1 00:00:10,509 --> 00:00:15,500 God the Father created light on the very first day of the world. 2 00:00:15,669 --> 00:00:18,980 I think that's how it was, but I'm not quite sure right now of my memory. 3 00:00:19,149 --> 00:00:21,219 He created light and darkness, 4 00:00:21,429 --> 00:00:25,339 and then the waters, and that was the genesis of everything. 5 00:00:25,510 --> 00:00:30,219 On the fourth day He invented plants and flowers, and up to here every thing's okay, right? 6 00:00:30,390 --> 00:00:34,299 The flowers and the plants, and the grasses, 7 00:00:34,710 --> 00:00:38,820 and then on the fifth day He created the animals. And all the animals are perfect, 8 00:00:38,990 --> 00:00:42,820 virtually angels, their place in creation is perfect; 9 00:00:43,869 --> 00:00:48,100 on day six God created man; and on the seventh day He rested. 10 00:00:48,350 --> 00:00:51,380 But there's also a problem. Because God the Father didn't get His planning right. 11 00:00:51,549 --> 00:00:55,170 A single day wasn't enough for the creation of Man. 12 00:00:55,350 --> 00:00:59,579 He should have worked on Man a little bit longer. Instead of taking a Sunday rest. 13 00:00:59,750 --> 00:01:05,540 And why, after all, should the Eternal Father need to take a rest, since he's... perfect and infallible? 14 00:01:06,469 --> 00:01:09,140 What's the point of His taking a Sunday nap? 15 00:01:09,469 --> 00:01:15,500 He ought to have kept on working, since by stopping his work on the sixth day He didn't really finish us. 16 00:01:16,510 --> 00:01:19,620 He left us with the possibility of further creation on our own 17 00:01:19,750 --> 00:01:21,180 completely unlike the animals. 18 00:01:21,349 --> 00:01:24,099 Animals don't create because the world they belong to is already complete and perfect. 19 00:01:24,269 --> 00:01:29,459 But the human being can create, and this ability could also lead to our self-destruction. 20 00:01:34,109 --> 00:01:36,340 That's why society doesn't work. 21 00:01:36,549 --> 00:01:39,010 We've got this capacity for the creation of art. 22 00:01:39,189 --> 00:01:45,530 Art is in fact the missing space between our imperfection and what we see as perfection. 23 00:01:46,590 --> 00:01:51,579 Our potential as creators is also our ruin. 24 00:01:53,310 --> 00:01:57,579 Doubt, as far as I can see is the centre of creativity. 25 00:01:59,230 --> 00:02:03,140 here's no such thing as creativity combined with security. 26 00:02:03,349 --> 00:02:07,260 People in the market, people involved with economics, want security. 27 00:02:07,950 --> 00:02:12,259 But real creativity has nothing to do with security. 28 00:02:12,669 --> 00:02:17,379 Things that already are sure of themselves no longer belong to the world or the sphere of creativity. 29 00:02:18,389 --> 00:02:23,860 Creativity is not knowledge. Creativity is searching for something, and you don't know what it is. 30 00:02:24,270 --> 00:02:26,460 For something that's still unknown. 31 00:02:26,629 --> 00:02:32,729 It's discovering things that perhaps one day may also belong to the great wide world of real economics. 32 00:02:33,830 --> 00:02:41,099 So, anyone who limits or suffocates creativity is paradoxically responsible also for ... 33 00:02:41,270 --> 00:02:46,659 destroying the economy they think they're trying to defend by attempting to maintain its security. 34 00:02:50,270 --> 00:02:54,180 Creativity has already lost the battle with economics. 35 00:02:54,870 --> 00:02:59,860 We're now in the hands of... we have to produce economic results. 36 00:03:00,590 --> 00:03:05,500 Which is to say that the artist is trapped in a space between production and consumption, 37 00:03:05,669 --> 00:03:14,259 and these sorts of values, this way of measuring human art and creativity has ceased to be; 38 00:03:15,629 --> 00:03:19,539 this doesn't look to me like the right scale of values. 39 00:03:22,789 --> 00:03:26,699 We live in a world of images made by other people: 40 00:03:27,189 --> 00:03:31,099 made, edited, speeded up and slowed down by other people; 41 00:03:31,469 --> 00:03:35,300 and these images are involved with the various realities around us. 42 00:03:37,310 --> 00:03:39,500 There is no such thing as future communication. 43 00:03:39,669 --> 00:03:42,500 Everything is communication. We live on communication. We breathe communication. 44 00:03:42,669 --> 00:03:47,500 We live in a society of images. We believe in what we're told by advertising and communication 45 00:03:48,150 --> 00:03:50,219 ...more than in what we really see. 46 00:03:51,550 --> 00:03:55,460 But, basically speaking, there has always been a cross. 47 00:03:55,830 --> 00:03:57,659 There has always been a swastika. 48 00:03:57,830 --> 00:04:00,020 And there has always been a Coca-Cola. 49 00:04:00,189 --> 00:04:03,969 Once upon a time the cross was much more important: there was an era of the power of religion. 50 00:04:04,150 --> 00:04:06,500 Then came the time of political power, the era of the swastika. 51 00:04:06,669 --> 00:04:09,979 Now what we've got is the dictatorship of Coca-Cola. 52 00:04:10,150 --> 00:04:14,060 The great churches now are the Coca-Cola companies, these enormous industries. 53 00:04:14,550 --> 00:04:18,459 So art, really, has always been contaminated, and has to be contaminated, 54 00:04:18,829 --> 00:04:22,740 because art that's not contaminated doesn't really mean anything. 55 00:04:22,910 --> 00:04:26,819 Caravaggio was a sodomite and a homosexual, and didn't believe in God. 56 00:04:27,269 --> 00:04:31,180 The models he used for his angels and madonnas were whores, rather than virgins. 57 00:04:31,750 --> 00:04:34,310 So, he too had to turn out an image of virginity, 58 00:04:34,430 --> 00:04:38,740 though clearly he couldn't have cared less about chastity. 59 00:04:40,230 --> 00:04:43,019 And I could hardly care less about Coca-Cola, 60 00:04:43,269 --> 00:04:45,259 but I work for these Coca-Cola corporations. 61 00:04:45,470 --> 00:04:50,740 Benetton's sweaters never meant anything at all to me, and now mean even less than that. 62 00:04:51,069 --> 00:04:54,899 But they gave me a system for self-expression. 63 00:04:55,069 --> 00:04:58,980 What finally survives won't surely be Benetton's sweaters... 64 00:04:59,389 --> 00:05:03,300 the church madonnas the purest of the purest virgins. 65 00:05:04,029 --> 00:05:09,620 What will finally remain is the human art and creativity that had to confront these problems. 66 00:05:11,269 --> 00:05:14,180 These ''no global'' people, moreover, are very highly global. 67 00:05:14,389 --> 00:05:17,220 They're the most globalized people of all. 68 00:05:17,430 --> 00:05:21,339 So, I find that the things they have to say are extremely interesting. 69 00:05:21,470 --> 00:05:25,379 Because, clearly there's a problem with these multinationals. 70 00:05:27,230 --> 00:05:31,139 But the multinational corporations are not themselves the problem: 71 00:05:31,670 --> 00:05:35,500 the problem is what do we want to do with all these possibilities. 72 00:05:35,829 --> 00:05:38,620 There has always been globalization. 73 00:05:38,750 --> 00:05:43,610 For the perfect beings of the Book of Genesis the problems of globalization don't exist: 74 00:05:43,790 --> 00:05:47,569 they have the world, and the sun, and the air... 75 00:05:47,750 --> 00:05:52,379 Every thing's perfectly normal and natural; but what do we mean when we talk about globalization. 76 00:05:53,829 --> 00:05:59,259 instead of breaking the windows at McDonald's, we can use McDonald's for something else. 77 00:05:59,790 --> 00:06:04,300 This is something I've tried to do, and I've attracted all the possible forms of criticism, 78 00:06:04,470 --> 00:06:07,100 especially from the world of the intelligentsia.